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    Post by Alex Benvenuti Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:03 pm

    Hi everyone!

    So, here's my latest model, a Jagdtiger Early.

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya JT+Build+%25281%2529
    The weld lines were way too thick (it was a first try for me as well) so I flattened them a bit, but I'll do better next time!

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya JT+B%2526W+wash
    I then airbrushed black and white and made the first streaks.

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+Chips
    With a brush and acrylic paints, I painted the first chips and damages. I also created some modulation on the most exposed items.

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+Color+Chipping
    Then the basecoat started. I can't say how I thinned the paint with Lacquer Thinner, but that was a lot... I had to apply many many layers. At this point I cheated a bit, adding more Buff to the paint for the highest parts. I also had to use some Translucent Yellow to give the model some liveliness (so to say).

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya JagdtigerOPR_01
    I then used several oil paints to bring the model to life, adding some streaks with paint and enamel colors.

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+OPR2+%25285%2529
    The dust process could timidly start, but I also added a mud color to show the missing fenders on the sides.

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    Then pigments got heavier and heavier adding a damp atmosphere to the Jagdtiger.

    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+Stains
    Dust and oil/gas leaks found their home on the model.

    Now the model is complete with its tracks and wet effects (using Klir)
    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+Finished+Small+%25284%2529

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    Jagdtiger 1:35 Tamiya Jagdtiger+Finished+Small+%25285%2529

    Well, the tracks were a real pain, but I managed to fix them correctly (I noticed they were wrong on one photo)
    To bring more life to the model, I also decided to add a Russian helmet and some rusty tracks.

    I had great fun experimenting this technique, really! It showed me a totally new dimension and forced me to think more in terms of volume and to be more careful about details. The model was a bit long to paint, but as far as my level allows me to go for the moment, I'm quite satisfied. Of course, there's still a lot more to learn and I trust you'll show me the way! Smile

    Alex!
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    Post by Massimo Salvador Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:09 am

    Wow !!!

    I like your style.
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    Post by Rosario206 Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:34 am

    Bon Jour Alex: like the way it's weathered...very nice work!!!

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    Post by bwolfe Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:14 am

    Very nice! Love the finished look!
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    Post by JohnTolcher Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:29 am

    Looking good Alex!
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    Post by Massimo Salvador Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:40 am

    Well, the tracks were a real pain, but I managed to fix them correctly
    They coming from the same kit ?

    Where did you read about the black&white technique (also with pre-weathering....) ?
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    Post by Alex Benvenuti Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:08 am

    Thank you all for your kind words! Really cool to read that you like it! Smile

    Massimo: Here is the link of Diego Quijano's blog, on which he explains step by step the technique! Smile

    http://dqscaleworks.blogspot.fr/2013/05/the-black-technique-tiger-i-148-by-jose.html

    For the tracks, yes... They are from the same kit, and I think I did them the wrong way... But I'm working with the magic tracks now and they're doing pretty well! Smile

    Thank you all, again!
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    Post by Massimo Salvador Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:14 am

    Massimo: Here is the link of Diego Quijano's blog, on which he explains step by step the technique! Smile

    http://dqscaleworks.blogspot.fr/2013/05/the-black-technique-tiger-i-148-by-jose.html
    Now i remember.... i read it in a Panzer Ace issue.

    Thanks.
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    Post by Tobias Bayer Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:57 am

    Killer paintjob.
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    Post by Oscar Lopez Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:19 am

    I love it, but the B&W technique is not for me... I always overdo the colour coats ruining all the pre-shading and pre-weathering...
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    Post by Diego Quijano Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:18 am

    B&W works! Great job Alex.

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    Post by Alex Benvenuti Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:30 pm

    Thank you a lot for your kind comments, folks! Smile
    This really gives me confidence and determination for the next models! Smile
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    Post by Alexander Wegner Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:40 pm

    did it work for u? the b and w?
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    Post by Alex Benvenuti Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:21 pm

    Well, Alex... YOU tell me. Do you think it worked? Smile

    Honestly, I think it did although the heavy mud somewhat greatly toned the B&W down... But I still notice the B&W first effects...
    But you know it's always the same... I notice things that common viewers won't, for these are mainly details... Smile
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    Post by Alexander Wegner Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:34 pm

    ok, i like the bw steps, but i think the effect is lost. not because of weak skills, u did a nice job and it is great that u tested a new techniqu. its just about the dunkelgelb coat. i think its normal, that the bw steps going to be lost for 40 %. may it works better on grey camo?Question 

    the mud is nice! may a bit to dry, but it looks very cool and i like the tracks very much, they look perfect to me!!!
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    Post by ALEX_V Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:19 pm

    Very nice work!!
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    Post by Alex Benvenuti Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:09 pm

    Thank you lads!

    Alexander, of course I think that every pre-shading technique is somewhat toned down after the basecoat and the first stages of weathering.
    Here, I think that the BW is still visible through the basecoat, but when it comes to weathering, the BW is highly toned down, since I chose to give the Jagdtiger a very dirty look.
    Had I not done it that dirty, it would have been more visible, I believe.
    Some colors work better for the BW technique and you're right, Panzer Grey seems to be the best for it.
    A three-tone camouflage would be very hard to apply due to the multiple color layers. You'd have to think where to airbrush Yellow, then brown and green (or in an other order).

    As I say, I gave the technique a try and it was fun and when I look at the model, I still can see places where the BW is still visible, but I see it BECAUSE I made it. I don't think people would come and say "Oh you've done a BW preshading and weathering!" Lol Very Happy

    But I'm thinking of Jose Luis Lopez Ruiz who applied his BW technique on a "Desert Yellow" T55 Enigma and it was clear that BW was showing through the basecoat. He really made it top notch and I was totally blown by his model. Of course he is more gifted and experienced than I am, so I'm no match for his airbrushing skills.

    But I'm really happy that you like the model. If I were to start another project with this same technique, I'd probably make the model cleaner and I think I'd choose a model with perfectly smooth surfaces, which, IMO, plays a great role in the technique! I'd probably be more light-handed on the paintjob, but that of course needs practice and time! Smile

    As for the tracks, I'm feeling better now with them, though the mistake is still visible, but... I'm not going to fuss about it... I'm happy the way it is and that's fine.

    For a wetter mud... wet effects are tricky because it might just be too wet and simply become glossy and uninteresting. I think I can make this look better by adding more dampness to the model on the mud, but I dare not touch the upper surfaces or maybe I'll add further streaks.

    Well, to finish this long message... It was a great experience, really... I think that even if I'm not a great modeler, I've managed to make something that gave me much pleasure and that was interesting to use! Smile
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    Post by Alexander Wegner Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:06 pm

    Alex Benvenuti wrote:"Oh you've done a BW preshading and weathering!" Lol Very Happy


    Well, to finish this long message... It was a great experience, really... I think that even if I'm not a great modeler, I've managed to make something that gave me much pleasure and that was interesting to use! Smile
    well done!!! Very Happy
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    Post by Maarten Boersma Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:01 pm

    Excellent execution of the technique ( Was New to me ),looks great!
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    Post by Oscar Lopez Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:02 am

    Alex Benvenuti wrote:Thank you lads!

    Alexander, of course I think that every pre-shading technique is somewhat toned down after the basecoat and the first stages of weathering.
    Here, I think that the BW is still visible through the basecoat, but when it comes to weathering, the BW is highly toned down, since I chose to give the Jagdtiger a very dirty look.
    Had I not done it that dirty, it would have been more visible, I believe.
    Some colors work better for the BW technique and you're right, Panzer Grey seems to be the best for it.
    A three-tone camouflage would be very hard to apply due to the multiple color layers. You'd have to think where to airbrush Yellow, then brown and green (or in an other order).

    As I say, I gave the technique a try and it was fun and when I look at the model, I still can see places where the BW is still visible, but I see it BECAUSE I made it. I don't think people would come and say "Oh you've done a BW preshading and weathering!" Lol Very Happy

    But I'm thinking of Jose Luis Lopez Ruiz who applied his BW technique on a "Desert Yellow" T55 Enigma and it was clear that BW was showing through the basecoat. He really made it top notch and I was totally blown by his model. Of course he is more gifted and experienced than I am, so I'm no match for his airbrushing skills.

    But I'm really happy that you like the model. If I were to start another project with this same technique, I'd probably make the model cleaner and I think I'd choose a model with perfectly smooth surfaces, which, IMO, plays a great role in the technique! I'd probably be more light-handed on the paintjob, but that of course needs practice and time! Smile

    As for the tracks, I'm feeling better now with them, though the mistake is still visible, but... I'm not going to fuss about it... I'm happy the way it is and that's fine.

    For a wetter mud... wet effects are tricky because it might just be too wet and simply become glossy and uninteresting. I think I can make this look better by adding more dampness to the model on the mud, but I dare not touch the upper surfaces or maybe I'll add further streaks.

    Well, to finish this long message... It was a great experience, really... I think that even if I'm not a great modeler, I've managed to make something that gave me much pleasure and that was interesting to use! Smile
    100% agreed. You're a much better modeller than I am and you have your concerns... Imagine me, that's why I said the B&W technike is not for me, I'll have to learn to control the airbrush 200% better to do it...

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